Interesting discussion regarding the merits of the Lyra Kleos, Kleos SL and the Kandid. Someone mentioned that in the US , the distributor for Lyra is recommending that care be taken with the choice of the phono stage, if the Kleos SL is opted for. There is a VERY good reason for this. The reason is that with almost ALL tube phono stages, the Kleos SL will have too little output- to not impact the noise floor of the tube phono stage! As a user of a customized tube phono stage, I personally believe that the phono stage is far more important than the cartridge type, when it comes to cartridge windings and output. The question is do you want to throw the baby out with the bathwater if you opt for an ultra low output MC cartridge, like the Kleos SL..or the Etna SL, and lose some of the many great things that a superb tube phono stage adds to the equation. IMHO, you do not! Another thing, it is believed by many that Lyra's are lean....IME that is a fallacy...IF they are matched with a tube phono stage and ancillary tube gear. If you match up a Lyra with the likes of a Soulution or a CH precision phono stage, then yes...lean is what you will get.As an owner of a new Kleos, I think this cartridge is superb, but needs to be matched to the right tonearm ( in my case a WTA custom 'Black' arm on my LP12 Radikal D works wonders). The Kleos SL would have too low an output for my tube phono stage, so while it theoretically would have had slightly more resolving ability due to less windings of the coil, all of that benefit would have been lost with the mismatch to the tube phono stage.
Unfortunately, I am no fan of the various Urika phono stages, IME they are too veiled and non resolving to really hear what a great cartridge like the Kleos can do.I know many here won't agree with this, but before complaining about my opinion, go out and see if you can listen to one of the better tube phono stages on the market..ARC, CAT, BAT, Lamm etc.,
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