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Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by Mr Onion » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:44 pm

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Many schoolboys get together to form a band, but few of them go on to become multi-million-selling recording artists - but that's what happened to Genesis. Its core members - Peter Gabriel, Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks - met at Charterhouse, a public school in Surrey, and began playing together with two other students in 1967. A few years and personnel changes later (including the addition of drummer Phil Collins) and the classic line-up was in place. But relationships within the band were fraught; Gabriel left for a solo career in 1975, and Rutherford, Collins, Banks and Steve Hackett carried on without him. Here, they're back together again to discuss their careers. Rare archive footage helps tell the story.
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Re: Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by Jazz Club » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:58 pm

Nice one James,
Recorder set. :smt023

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Re: Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by Coyote Jim » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:27 pm

Thanks James +1
I always liked Genesis with Phil Collins rather than Peter Gabriel.
I remember waiting for my record shop to open the day Seconds Out was released.
Fave albums Seconds Out,Wind And The Wuthering & And Then There Were Three. IMHO.
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Re: Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by Jazz Club » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:59 am

I enjoyed it.
Made a nice change to have something worth watching on Saturday night TV.
[ external image ]Its up on BBC iPlayer for those that missed it.

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Re: Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by Coyote Jim » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:21 am

+1 :smt023
Great insight to the band and history consummate professionals.
To see the history of band members with their own projects was interesting.
The Living Years always gets me though. :smt005
We enjoyed it here too. 8) :smt023
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Re: Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by SteveJ » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:56 am

They became a bit 'Poppie' in the '80s but they even did that well, and who can blame them.

Good viewing considering all the other crap on the TV.

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Re: Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by Jazz Club » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:30 pm

I could watch Phil and Chester duelling drums all day long.
I have always loved the way they interact with each other when playing live.
They make it look so free and easy :smt023

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Re: Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by Jamiel » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:34 pm

I was really disappointed, it looked like Hackett had been pan and scanned out of the group interview shots, and he was almost completely removed from the documentary. Daryl Stuemer murdering to guitar from 'Firth of Fifth' was painful.

I found Collins interesting, I get very bored by Gabriel and Banks. They didn't mention 'Wind and Wuthering', all they said about 'Selling England' was that it had a single on the album. The usual over importance placed on 'The Lamb...', about which I do agree with Banks.

No mention of Bruford or Ray Wilson, who did play with the band, regardless of what the BBC want to present.

I didn't learn a single thing about the band I couldn't have read in more detail on Wikipedia.

I also like watching Collins and Thompson drum together.

I have deleted it, and I also saw on Facebook that Hackett was pissed off with it and will not stock the DVD in his webstore, (he does like and stock the new box set). I must say I agree with him.

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Re: Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by Jazz Club » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:21 pm

Jamie,
Come on?
Ray Wilson was only there for 5 mins to fill in vocals after Phil left in the late 90s.
TBH nothing then is worth talking about.
Same goes for Bills input really,A five min wonder.
I do love Bill though. :smt023
I thought Steve wanted to be out of shot on account of he has never really liked being infront of TV cameras doing interviews?

All I will say about Tony Banks loads of solo work is WHY? :roll:
Phil is a better piano player than Tony will ever be. :lol:

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Re: Genesis: Together and Apart.

Post by Jamiel » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:11 pm

In the interviews I have read Collins was concerned about who would take over the live drums on his first tour as vocalist. Admittedly Bruford was only there for one tour and didn't contribute anything in the studio.

The programme was obviously far more interested in vocalists than anything else, with the exception of Ray Wilson. He was one third of Genesis for their last studio album, it could have been mentioned, even if they didn't want to say anything more.

All in all I found it very thin on content, but then perhaps I didn't expect any more. Steve Hackett was certainly annoyed in his Facebook post, especially at the lack of any mention of his solo work.

If the programme was supposed to be about the five members of the 'classic' line-up, then it certainly didn't reflect that in the final edit.

I thought that Collins came out of it the best though.

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