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This will probably be removed but I am so angry at the clown tonight. Before January a band/musicians could load up a van with their gear and go play anywhere in Europe. This was obviously going to change post Brexit. The EU offered the chance of musicians touring without a visa unhindered. This offer was turned down by the U.K. Today the clown was in front of a select committee being questioned about this. He denied it and said musicians could work in the EU for 90 days out of 180. That is the requirement for tourists and nothing to do with musicians working in the EU. At first when he denied it I thought he was going to say that they wanted a deal which would let musicians have 30 days of touring or such. He hasn’t got a clue of the basics of Brexit. If he didn’t know he should have said. Why does he need to lie? Musicians are now subject to a charge of over £300 for a visa the EU didn’t want. They also will have to document every instrument and bit if kit they take. Lots of musicians are really angry watching him today. Music brings in so much more to this country than fishing, an industry that was one of the principle points of Brexit and so called sovereignty.
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Scooter wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:17 pm This will probably be removed but I am so angry at the clown tonight. Before January a band/musicians could load up a van with their gear and go play anywhere in Europe. This was obviously going to change post Brexit. The EU offered the chance of musicians touring without a visa unhindered. This offer was turned down by the U.K. Today the clown was in front of a select committee being questioned about this. He denied it and said musicians could work in the EU for 90 days out of 180. That is the requirement for tourists and nothing to do with musicians working in the EU. At first when he denied it I thought he was going to say that they wanted a deal which would let musicians have 30 days of touring or such. He hasn’t got a clue of the basics of Brexit. If he didn’t know he should have said. Why does he need to lie? Musicians are now subject to a charge of over £300 for a visa the EU didn’t want. They also will have to document every instrument and bit if kit they take. Lots of musicians are really angry watching him today. Music brings in so much more to this country than fishing, an industry that was one of the principle points of Brexit and so called sovereignty.
Well said Scooter :smt023 , I'm a retired semi pro musician, 30 years+ under my belt (retired from gigging) I have many friends who tour or work seasonaly in Europe, this along with Covid is making musicians future prospects difficult.

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At present I consider this topic to be keeping on the correct side of "fair comment" but please do not let it stray into political ranting. Should it do so the topic will be deleted without warning.

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It’s not just the musicians who are getting screwed we all will be when Brexit kicks in. My daughter is leading customs team up for a well know container company in wake of the new customs changes. All I can’t say is “WHAT A FCUKING MESS” :smt013
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I really fear for the musicians at the moment. Covid has stopped a great deal of the working musicians and up and coming musicians from working live. Brexit will not help. One musician I know couldn’t afford to tour his band but would play solo, now he needs to buy a visa but to sell his merchandise (CD’s T shirts, etc) now will need lots of form filling etc. Another mate of mine, who moved to Spain two years ago, has been told he can’t even play in bars for beer money. He used to play in Swedish band when he visited his mate as a guest. Can’t even do that legally.
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The Musicians Union is lobbying for a Musician Passport. They are looking for 150,000 signatures , currently at @112,000.

Here is the link, we can help https://www.change.org/p/government-par ... ingintheeu

I hope this is viewed as non-political?
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Eightiesguy wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:34 pm The Musicians Union is lobbying for a Musician Passport. They are looking for 150,000 signatures , currently at @112,000.

Here is the link, we can help https://www.change.org/p/government-par ... ingintheeu

I hope this is viewed as non-political?
Good call, I have already signed it, I should have posted it.
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Scooter wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pm
Eightiesguy wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:34 pm The Musicians Union is lobbying for a Musician Passport. They are looking for 150,000 signatures , currently at @112,000.

Here is the link, we can help https://www.change.org/p/government-par ... ingintheeu

I hope this is viewed as non-political?
Good call, I have already signed it, I should have posted it.
:smt023 Me too, and posted out on other Social networks
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"Last month, the German govt announced a €2.5bn cancellation fund for events in the second half of 2021. The purpose is to indemnify organisers against upfront costs like booking staff & stage crews & paying deposits to performers." Wouldn't that be nice...

https://www.ft.com/content/9f71dcc7-d12 ... 7c59be6188

Great to see they also consider stage crews, etc.
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This just gets worse...
Culture minister Caroline Dineage confirms that as a result of Brexit, musicians and arts touring in the EU "will be required to check domestic immigration and minister rules for each member states in which they wish to tour."
This may mean that a European visa isn't needed but a visa for each country.
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