Private shipping from uk to EU

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Private shipping from uk to EU

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Hello
Do you have some experience of selling hifi equipment from uk to eu?
If it’s a private sale the british seller doesn’t have any vat-registered number.
The buyer will have to buy the vat when the package is delivered in the EU?

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Re: Private shipping from uk to EU

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I'm not an expert but as VAT doesn't apply to private sellers no VAT can be charged anyway.
Are you talking import duties?
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Thanks Timster.
Yes i am talking about import duties.
I have read that even if it’s a gift sent from uk to EU you have to declare the content and its value.

But then it’s not clear how this is taxed when arriving in the EU. Some websites say that for “anything” coming from the Uk, the receiver in the EU will have to pay vat.
Which is not fair to me as a uk business will remove the uk vat first. And for private sales it’s then paying the vat twice…
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If it’s a private UK seller they will do nothing other than declare the value when ‘exporting’ to the EU. The EU recipient will pay any import duties that are relevant (probably none on hi fi - but I might be wrong), will pay for customs clearance and will pay VAT assuming it’s worth more than €45.
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Thanks Mark57
You’re right, vat should be payed on the product even if second hand and even if it’s a private sale
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I’ve a mate that’s an antique dealer and has to pay VAT none of his stuff is new. :smt023
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Re: Private shipping from uk to EU

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Coyote Jim wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:46 pm I’ve a mate that’s an antique dealer and has to pay VAT none of his stuff is new. :smt023
He must be VAT registered then (turnover > 90k).
Still not sure why VAT has to be paid on imports from the UK. EU rules must be very different.
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The general rule is the exporter (if VAT registered) reclaims any VAT that has been paid in the UK and the importer pays the VAT appropriate to his country.

The same applies to imports from the EU. The EU exporter reclaims any VAT he had paid and the UK importer pays UK VAT.
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Indeed
But if it’s a private seller without vat registered (which is usually the case) then the buyer pays its country’s vat
Which is a bit like paying the vat twice…
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Yes. If the shipper is not VAT registered then they can’t reclaim any VAT paid on the item while the foreign buyer still has to pay VAT on the value n their country. Double VAT, but that’s the rules.
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