Ultrasonic record cleaning machine recommendation

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Not sure whether this is the right sub-forum to post this question. if not, would the moderators please move this to the appropriate forum.

I’m looking for an ultrasonic record cleaning machine and I’m curious to know if there are any models on the market that will dry the record after cleaning. In my experience, dealing with a wet or damp record after cleaning can be problematic. Your suggestions and recommendations are welcomed.

Alternatively, does anyone know of a stand alone dryer for wet records?
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The Hummin Guru is a good option, that doesn't cost that much.
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I don’t think it dries the records after cleaning, or does it?
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The HumminGuru is a great bit of kit at an excellent price. It does dry the records too.

I did a review here HumminGuru Ultrasonic RCM
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Another thumbs up for the HumminGuru. :smt023

Yes, it does dry the records after cleaning. There's the option of a five minute or ten minute drying cycle.
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Thank you all. HumminGuru it is.

Looking at the website, they list type one type two type three and so on, but they all look identical. Anyone know what that’s all about?
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The 'type' is just so you get the correct cable for your local sockets.the machines are otherwise identical
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Thank you.
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Mr Onion wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:48 pm The HumminGuru is a great bit of kit at an excellent price. It does dry the records too.

I did a review here HumminGuru Ultrasonic RCM
Whilst I can happily write computer programs and waffle on endlessly about psychedelic and progressive rock, I am hopeless at any form of DIY. Did you find it easy to put together?

I’m thinking of getting a HumminGuru, but any form of self assembly makes me hesitate. I have a vacuum RCM, but as I’m getting on in years I find it a bit awkward so an easy to use ultrasonic cleaner appeals. I have read your review, which was extremely helpful.
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Nothing to assemble.

Unpack the bits and remove the packing

Plug in the power supply

Take the water tank out, fill it adding 3-4 drops of HG fluid, pour the contents into the cleaning basin

Replace the water tank

Put LP into the slots in the basin

Select the program and turn on.

7-15 min later (depending on the cycle chosen)remove the clean dry record and put it in a new sleeve.

Check the level in the water tank, topping up if needed.

repeat

Occasional maintenance

Replace the cleaning fluid and/or water filter when its looking like it needs changing (7-20 records depending of how filthy they are. )

Remove the filter from within the basin and wipe then both dry

Replace the air filter occasionally (depends on how dusty your atmosphere is. I change it when I change the drive wheels)

Replace the drive wheels whenever they need replacing (~600 records in my case )
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Mr Onion wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:52 am Nothing to assemble.

Unpack the bits and remove the packing

Plug in the power supply

Take the water tank out, fill it adding 3-4 drops of HG fluid, pour the contents into the cleaning basin

Replace the water tank

Put LP into the slots in the basin

Select the program and turn on.

7-15 min later (depending on the cycle chosen)remove the clean dry record and put it in a new sleeve.

Check the level in the water tank, topping up if needed.

repeat

Occasional maintenance

Replace the cleaning fluid and/or water filter when its looking like it needs changing (7-20 records depending of how filthy they are. I change it when I change the drive wheels)

Remove the filter from within the basin and wipe then both dry

Replace the air filter occasionally (depends on how dusty your atmosphere is)

Replace the drive wheels whenever they need replacing (~600 records in my case )
Thank you, very helpful as always.
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@Nestor Turton I'm like you. Any time that I've tried any kind of DIY it has ended somewhere on the spectrum beiween problem and disaster. HumminGuru is very easy and intuitive; no DIY skills required :D
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Sorry, just noticed an error (multi editing confusing the poor old brain)

Its the AIR filter I change when I change the Drive Wheels. (but as I say it depends on how dusty your air is. TBH at the cost you can change both filters as often as you want to)
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Andyt916 wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:39 pm @Nestor Turton I'm like you. Any time that I've tried any kind of DIY it has ended somewhere on the spectrum3 beiween problem and disaster. HumminGuru is very easy and intuitive; no DIY skills required
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Mr Onion wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:47 pm Sorry, just noticed an error (multi editing confusing the poor old brain)

Its the AIR filter I change when I change the Drive Wheels. (but as I say it depends on how dusty your air is. TBH at the cost you can change both filters as often as you want to)
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These all you need, been using them for many years and no problems. :smt023
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Been using these for over forty years they gather the dust and lift it off not just collect then sweep back in over the the album. :smt023
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The problem is, is that a lot of my vinyl is ‘old’. Like fourty-years or so.

Put simply, it won’t play until it has been cleaned. Otherwise it skips, jumps and sounds awful.

This machine has been a god-send:

https://www.project-audio.com/en/product/vc-s3/
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Further to my original post, I was catching up with an audiohile friend whom had not spoken to for about a year. In the course of our conversation he told me he had recently bought a Humminguru and invited me over for a demo. As it happened, I had recently bought a bunch of secondhand LPs from a record shop and took them with me. I had played a couple of the LPs after cleaning them with a carbon fiber brush and they were fairly noisy. After running them through the Humminguru the noise levels were substantially, reduced, On one LP clicks could still be heard on one side, but the other side was very quiet. The other LPs were pretty much cleaned up to mint minus levels; a remarkable performance. My friend told me that he gave away his VPI record cleaning machine. This uses an brush and a vacuum to mechanically clean Records.

Needless to say, I’ll be ordering the Humminguru soon.
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El Exigente wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 3:15 pm Further to my original post, I was catching up with an audiohile friend whom had not spoken to for about a year. In the course of our conversation he told me he had recently bought a Humminguru and invited me over for a demo. As it happened, I had recently bought a bunch of secondhand LPs from a record shop and took them with me. I had played a couple of the LPs after cleaning them with a carbon fiber brush and they were fairly noisy. After running them through the Humminguru the noise levels were substantially, reduced, On one LP clicks could still be heard on one side, but the other side was very quiet. The other LPs were pretty much cleaned up to mint minus levels; a remarkable performance. My friend told me that he gave away his VPI record cleaning machine. This uses an brush and a vacuum to mechanically clean Records.

Needless to say, I’ll be ordering the Humminguru soon.
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El Exigente wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 3:15 pm Further to my original post, I was catching up with an audiohile friend whom had not spoken to for about a year. In the course of our conversation he told me he had recently bought a Humminguru and invited me over for a demo. As it happened, I had recently bought a bunch of secondhand LPs from a record shop and took them with me. I had played a couple of the LPs after cleaning them with a carbon fiber brush and they were fairly noisy. After running them through the Humminguru the noise levels were substantially, reduced, On one LP clicks could still be heard on one side, but the other side was very quiet. The other LPs were pretty much cleaned up to mint minus levels; a remarkable performance. My friend told me that he gave away his VPI record cleaning machine. This uses an brush and a vacuum to mechanically clean Records.

Needless to say, I’ll be ordering the Humminguru soon.
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Martin Kelly wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 6:55 pm The problem is, is that a lot of my vinyl is ‘old’. Like fourty-years or so.

Put simply, it won’t play until it has been cleaned. Otherwise it skips, jumps and sounds awful.

This machine has been a god-send:

https://www.project-audio.com/en/product/vc-s3/
I'd say the "pursuit of perfection is the enemy of the good enough" experiment would be to clean a record using a Nitty Gritty style record cleaning machine, listen, then clean with an ultrasonic. Then listen for an improvement. So far, I use the Nitty Gritty and haven't used the ultrasonic cleaner in a long while. Perhaps I'll run this little experiment. I also have some old, rather dirty LPs that would make for a good test.
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akamatsu wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 7:52 pm

I'd say the "pursuit of perfection is the enemy of the good enough" experiment would be to clean a record using a Nitty Gritty style record cleaning machine, listen, then clean with an ultrasonic. Then listen for an improvement. So far, I use the Nitty Gritty and haven't used the ultrasonic cleaner in a long while. Perhaps I'll run this little experiment. I also have some old, rather dirty LPs that would make for a good test.
Or it might just tell you that two cleanings are better than one. The only way a comparative test would work is if you had two identical copies of a record and clean one with each system. But you’d have to play them before cleaning to ensure they sound the same uncleaned.
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I have one of these and it’s excellent

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However, I don’t use it that often as I find it is hard work and I’m not as active as I was in the old daze. So I’m looking at getting the HumminGuru, not because I expect even better results, but for ease of use. The Hannl Mera seems to have doubled in price since I bought it and so the HumminGuru looks an absolute bargain. Everybody who uses one sings its praises so it looks ideal for an old codger like me.

I saw a demonstration of another ultrasonic machine and it really put me off: especially as the proprietor seemed more interested in talking about Michael Fremier, who I subsequently found out was an American hifi press person (I’d never heard of him). However, the HumminGuru seems to be much simpler. I like simple as it matches my abilities.
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The Hannl Mera is an excellent machine :smt023 The best I've tried so far is the Clearaudio Double Matrix Professional Sonic. It's very costly, but simple to use, as it cleans and dries both sides at the same time. It cleans better than any other machine I've tried too.



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