How to build an LP12

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timster wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:47 am
Wenge1 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:42 pm
timster wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:28 pm Am ready to pull trigger on Majik LP12, with Trampolin, excluding Majik internal power supply. Funds should be available next week.
Just need a Lingo. @FearofMusic I was hoping we could get a deal done? Please PM me.
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Congrats - I'm very confident you will love it. Call that 'expectation bias' or whatever but it's still what I think will happen ... :smt023
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Thanks. I'm looking forward to the uplift.
Have you done the deal yet? If not, wait until after tomorrow when we meet.
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evil_C wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:28 pm
timster wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:47 am
Wenge1 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:42 pm
timster wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:28 pm Am ready to pull trigger on Majik LP12, with Trampolin, excluding Majik internal power supply. Funds should be available next week.
Just need a Lingo. @FearofMusic I was hoping we could get a deal done? Please PM me.
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Congrats - I'm very confident you will love it. Call that 'expectation bias' or whatever but it's still what I think will happen ... :smt023
:D :D
Thanks. I'm looking forward to the uplift.
Have you done the deal yet? If not, wait until after tomorrow when we meet.
Not yet so OK 🤔
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Thanks @evil_C for showing me your superb system yesterday, and your advice.
I've slept on it and, you can probably guess, I'll be going on my original plan, starting with Majik and Lingo and building up from there.

Have to say those 808s are beautiful 😍

One question. I found the Katie Melua (not on qobuz though, and I have most tracks on other albums but not that one!), but I can't remember the Ane Brun album you played?
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timster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:03 am Thanks @evil_C for showing me your superb system yesterday, and your advice.
I've slept on it and, you can probably guess, I'll be going on my original plan, starting with Majik and Lingo and building up from there.

Have to say those 808s are beautiful 😍

One question. I found the Katie Melua (not on qobuz though, and I have most tracks on other albums but not that one!), but I can't remember the Ane Brun album you played?
It was good to meet you yesterday. I have just looked at the Linn price list and found that the price of the deck only is £2,160. That would allow you to choose the finish you desire and you could then add components from there. If these were pre-used components (e.g. Kore) I’m sure you could end up with a higher spec turntable than a Majik. But never mind, you seem to have made your mind up and no doubt a Majik LP12 will be a significant improvement on what you have today.

The Ane Brun album was Leave Me Breathless.
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evil_C wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:26 am
timster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:03 am Thanks @evil_C for showing me your superb system yesterday, and your advice.
I've slept on it and, you can probably guess, I'll be going on my original plan, starting with Majik and Lingo and building up from there.

Have to say those 808s are beautiful 😍

One question. I found the Katie Melua (not on qobuz though, and I have most tracks on other albums but not that one!), but I can't remember the Ane Brun album you played?
It was good to meet you yesterday. I have just looked at the Linn price list and found that the price of the deck only is £2,160. That would allow you to choose the finish you desire and you could then add components from there. If these were pre-used components (e.g. Kore) I’m sure you could end up with a higher spec turntable than a Majik. But never mind, you seem to have made your mind up and no doubt a Majik LP12 will be a significant improvement on what you have today.

The Ane Brun album was Leave Me Breathless.
Thanks, I'll add that to my list.

Adding all the components separately (and sourcing them) is just too much hassle for me, let alone the distance. How would I get the Lingo4 to him for instance. Then there's subchassis, arm, cartridge, platter, cables...and I've probably forgotten stuff. Sure, for the same money I could get a better spec to start but that's part of the fun, for me anyway. Majik spec plus Lingo and Trampolin will do me fine as a base - adding/upgrading things over time if needs be or I get an urge...fun fun fun 😁
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timster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:56 am
evil_C wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:26 am
timster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:03 am Thanks @evil_C for showing me your superb system yesterday, and your advice.
I've slept on it and, you can probably guess, I'll be going on my original plan, starting with Majik and Lingo and building up from there.

Have to say those 808s are beautiful 😍

One question. I found the Katie Melua (not on qobuz though, and I have most tracks on other albums but not that one!), but I can't remember the Ane Brun album you played?
It was good to meet you yesterday. I have just looked at the Linn price list and found that the price of the deck only is £2,160. That would allow you to choose the finish you desire and you could then add components from there. If these were pre-used components (e.g. Kore) I’m sure you could end up with a higher spec turntable than a Majik. But never mind, you seem to have made your mind up and no doubt a Majik LP12 will be a significant improvement on what you have today.

The Ane Brun album was Leave Me Breathless.
Thanks, I'll add that to my list.

Adding all the components separately (and sourcing them) is just too much hassle for me, let alone the distance. How would I get the Lingo4 to him for instance. Then there's subchassis, arm, cartridge, platter, cables...and I've probably forgotten stuff. Sure, for the same money I could get a better spec to start but that's part of the fun, for me anyway. Majik spec plus Lingo and Trampolin will do me fine as a base - adding/upgrading things over time if needs be or I get an urge...fun fun fun 😁
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You can't really loose either way - Whatever suits you on a practical basis can also be a big factor ....... :smt023
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evil_C wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:26 am
timster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:03 am Thanks @evil_C for showing me your superb system yesterday, and your advice.
I've slept on it and, you can probably guess, I'll be going on my original plan, starting with Majik and Lingo and building up from there.

Have to say those 808s are beautiful 😍

One question. I found the Katie Melua (not on qobuz though, and I have most tracks on other albums but not that one!), but I can't remember the Ane Brun album you played?
It was good to meet you yesterday. I have just looked at the Linn price list and found that the price of the deck only is £2,160. That would allow you to choose the finish you desire and you could then add components from there. If these were pre-used components (e.g. Kore) I’m sure you could end up with a higher spec turntable than a Majik. But never mind, you seem to have made your mind up and no doubt a Majik LP12 will be a significant improvement on what you have today.

The Ane Brun album was Leave Me Breathless.
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You're a lucky lad - I bet Clive's system sounds FAB ....... :smt023
LP12 - Klimax Radikal 2/Urika, Harban Plinth, Karousel, Keel, Karmen, Ekos SE, Skale, Lyra Atlas
CD Players - Roksan Caspian M2 CD Player, dCS Puccini CD Player + Scarlatti Master Clock
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Knowing what I know now I’d have no problem going to Peter and ordering a Pik N Mix deck to my budget.
If you don’t mind previously enjoyed.
Knowledge and availability is all under one roof. :smt023
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Coyote Jim wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:31 am Knowing what I know now I’d have no problem going to Peter and ordering a Pik N Mix deck to my budget.
If you don’t mind previously enjoyed.
Knowledge and availability is all under one roof. :smt023
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What he said but with the caveat that you need to able get there and get the deck back.
LP12 - Klimax Radikal 2/Urika, Harban Plinth, Karousel, Keel, Karmen, Ekos SE, Skale, Lyra Atlas
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Wenge1 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:40 am
Coyote Jim wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:31 am Knowing what I know now I’d have no problem going to Peter and ordering a Pik N Mix deck to my budget.
If you don’t mind previously enjoyed.
Knowledge and availability is all under one roof. :smt023
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What he said but with the caveat that you need to able get there and get the deck back.
Exactamundo. But it's not only that I don't currently have a car, I'd rather someone local to be able to come over with fixes/uogrades or whatever. They are happy to come 9 miles to collect, even if only for a minor thing.
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Wenge1 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:26 am
evil_C wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:26 am
timster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:03 am Thanks @evil_C for showing me your superb system yesterday, and your advice.
I've slept on it and, you can probably guess, I'll be going on my original plan, starting with Majik and Lingo and building up from there.

Have to say those 808s are beautiful 😍

One question. I found the Katie Melua (not on qobuz though, and I have most tracks on other albums but not that one!), but I can't remember the Ane Brun album you played?
It was good to meet you yesterday. I have just looked at the Linn price list and found that the price of the deck only is £2,160. That would allow you to choose the finish you desire and you could then add components from there. If these were pre-used components (e.g. Kore) I’m sure you could end up with a higher spec turntable than a Majik. But never mind, you seem to have made your mind up and no doubt a Majik LP12 will be a significant improvement on what you have today.

The Ane Brun album was Leave Me Breathless.
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You're a lucky lad - I bet Clive's system sounds FAB ....... :smt023
Very much so. A lot of boxes though 😉
We even agreed the streaming vs vinyl war was a draw. One in particular, Rickie Lee Jones was much better streaming. Most others were vice-versa (imo).
As Clive has an all analogue path for his (lovely) LP12 it's not really the same as mine but still, interesting.
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Pre-amp/Streamer: Linn Selekt DSM (U)
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Amplification: Linn Akurate A4200/1 (D)
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Order In!
Majik LP12, ex power supply and motor, in Rosenut, plus Trampolin.
Lingo 4 on the way 😁😁😁

Even adding 2nd hand parts of the same level to the basic mechanicals came to more than the Majik package. It's a good deal less than the sum of its parts.

So I'll be getting a new LP12 with a Lingo 4 for ~4.5k.
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Great call on the Lingo 4 there - you've got yourself a fine deck!
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Andyt916 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:25 pm Great call on the Lingo 4 there - you've got yourself a fine deck!
I certainly hope so! The proof will be in the pudding 🍮
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timster wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:28 pm
Andyt916 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:25 pm Great call on the Lingo 4 there - you've got yourself a fine deck!
I certainly hope so! The proof will be in the pudding 🍮
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The 'pudding' will be superb ......... :smt023
LP12 - Klimax Radikal 2/Urika, Harban Plinth, Karousel, Keel, Karmen, Ekos SE, Skale, Lyra Atlas
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timster wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:24 pm
Wenge1 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:40 am
Coyote Jim wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:31 am Knowing what I know now I’d have no problem going to Peter and ordering a Pik N Mix deck to my budget.
If you don’t mind previously enjoyed.
Knowledge and availability is all under one roof. :smt023
.
What he said but with the caveat that you need to able get there and get the deck back.
Exactamundo. But it's not only that I don't currently have a car, I'd rather someone local to be able to come over with fixes/uogrades or whatever. They are happy to come 9 miles to collect, even if only for a minor thing.
:smt023
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Formalities done. I'm getting the full price of the PS and motor off. So with £100 for my RP1, grand total of £4131 for a brand new Majik spec LP12 in Rosenut, with Trampolin and Lingo 4.

😁😁😁
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Amplification: Linn Akurate A4200/1 (D)
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Excellent deal, you will have lots of fun together
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timster wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:31 pm Formalities done. I'm getting the full price of the PS and motor off. So with £100 for my RP1, grand total of £4131 for a brand new Majik spec LP12 in Rosenut, with Trampolin and Lingo 4.

😁😁😁
I suspect that you will be very happy with that :D
Turntable - Linn LP12, Karousel, Keel, Ekos SE/1, Krystal, Lingo 4
Phono Stage - Uphorik
Amplifiers - Klimax Kontrol (KK/1 Dynamik), 2 x Klimax Solos (Dynamik)
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timster wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:31 pm Formalities done. I'm getting the full price of the PS and motor off. So with £100 for my RP1, grand total of £4131 for a brand new Majik spec LP12 in Rosenut, with Trampolin and Lingo 4.

😁😁😁
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Going from what you currently have to what you will be getting will be the biggest single jump in vinyl SQ you will experience. Should you go up the LP12 chain in the future you will get further and worthwhile improvements but nothing is likely to match the change you are about to experience. So just enjoy ........ 8)
LP12 - Klimax Radikal 2/Urika, Harban Plinth, Karousel, Keel, Karmen, Ekos SE, Skale, Lyra Atlas
CD Players - Roksan Caspian M2 CD Player, dCS Puccini CD Player + Scarlatti Master Clock
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timster wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:31 pm Formalities done. I'm getting the full price of the PS and motor off. So with £100 for my RP1, grand total of £4131 for a brand new Majik spec LP12 in Rosenut, with Trampolin and Lingo 4.

😁😁😁
Excellent result - you’ll enjoy it for sure.

A radio one DJ did one of those double blind listening tests of 3 decks - LP12, Technics and another I can’t recall. She was able to pick out the LP12 easily as the best sounding source. I think the experiment was supposed to show you couldn’t hear a difference, but she most definitely could.

Having owned 4 TT brands over the years Garrard, Rega, Nottingham Analogue and LP12, I can attest they were all very good, but the LP12 is the most musical. In fact each change was an upgrade in sound quality. I’ve upgraded the LP12 over the years something I couldn’t do with the others. In strange way, I’m pleased upgrades have become expensive as it has helped me stay with and enjoy what I have and even with a Krystal, I’m ecstatic.
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timster wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:31 pm Formalities done. I'm getting the full price of the PS and motor off. So with £100 for my RP1, grand total of £4131 for a brand new Majik spec LP12 in Rosenut, with Trampolin and Lingo 4.

😁😁😁
:smt023 Congratulations.

I bought my first LP12 42 years ago. A decision that I never regretted. I’ve made some bad choices in life but that like choosing my wife was a good one.

Your new one is going to sound a lot better than mine did then. You’re going to love it.

I did make a big mistake five years ago when I sold it. Fortunately, I’ve got another one now, so all is as it should be again.

Maybe, there’s lots of other excellent turntables around, but I didn’t feel the need to look any further than the Linn Sondek because it’s been a big part of life.

There’s something special about vinyl records, particularly when played on an LP12.
LP12* > Next Generation KDSM Hub with Utopik > Klimax Organik Exaktboxes > Solo 500s** > Komris
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**with original 1999 Switched Mode Power Supplies, i.e. not Dynamik
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Thanks guys for your positivity. Someone on the Mav has just asked if he should get an LP12. Perhaps he should be pointed here 😂

4 weeks delivery so just in time for my birthday 🎂
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