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Utopik Update.

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Utopik Update.

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Thought I’d give Linn a poke to get some clarity on the never never expectation on Dynamik being replaced with Utopik.
Seems like don’t hold your breath. :smt009
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Re: Utopik Update.

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Coyote Jim wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:22 am Image

Thought I’d give Linn a poke to get some clarity on the never never expectation on Dynamik being replaced with Utopik.
Seems like don’t hold your breath. :smt009
Except they have designed it for Exaktboxes. I should know, I have one.

But it does seem clear it won't be available for amps. Boo 👎
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I heard it was unlikely to be this year, but can’t remember who told me…
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timster wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:33 am
Coyote Jim wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:22 am Image

Thought I’d give Linn a poke to get some clarity on the never never expectation on Dynamik being replaced with Utopik.
Seems like don’t hold your breath. :smt009
Except they have designed it for Exaktboxes. I should know, I have one.

But it does seem clear it won't be available for amps. Boo 👎
But still not for Klimax Exaktboxes.
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DB1328 wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:54 pm
timster wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:33 am
Coyote Jim wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:22 am Image

Thought I’d give Linn a poke to get some clarity on the never never expectation on Dynamik being replaced with Utopik.
Seems like don’t hold your breath. :smt009
Except they have designed it for Exaktboxes. I should know, I have one.

But it does seem clear it won't be available for amps. Boo 👎
But still not for Klimax Exaktboxes.
Really? That surprises me as it is for Akurate ones. Are you sure?
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Yes of course
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Coyote Jim wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:22 am Thought I’d give Linn a poke to get some clarity on the never never expectation on Dynamik being replaced with Utopik.
It appears that the new Majik DSM does not have Utopik ... Re: New Majik DSM?
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FearofMusic wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:55 am
Coyote Jim wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:22 am Thought I’d give Linn a poke to get some clarity on the never never expectation on Dynamik being replaced with Utopik.
It appears that the new Majik DSM does not have Utopik ... Re: New Majik DSM?
I wonder if they know what they are doing. :roll:
I’ve never come across so much obsolescence and product replacement it seems like it’s always overtaking itself. :smt009
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They designed an Utopik PS for the current Klimax DSM. Luckily for us it could identical used in the old Klimax DS+DSM, Akurate DS, DSM, Exaktbox, Kontrol and CD, Majik DS and some others.
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if it is true that by June there will be a new amplifier, later on maybe a little hope for Akudorik to have Utopik, maybe. One thing I am sure of: beyond Colin's kind and polite response, Linn will not make Utopik available for amplifiers because they do NOT want Utopik to be available.
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Maybe, let’s see.

Apparently there’s a dealer day soon (end of April) so some news may well be forthcoming…..if I were Linn, I would certainly do something on Utopik for older units (Klimax for sure) as it’s a easy win financially, there will be many owners doing that.

Time will tell…..
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I see my Linn Akurate DSM as the end of the road in terms of upgrades — to go further, I’d need to consider a Selekt or a second-hand Klimax. I wouldn’t buy a Utopik for the Akurate DSM even if it became available, simply because there’s no Organik option. And without a Utopik streamer, I don’t see much point in adding Utopik to my Klimax Twin either. I was really hoping a second-hand black, old-style Klimax DSM with Utopik and Organik might turn up at a reasonable price.
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I think this is a reasonable price

https://www.audio-markt.de/market/linn- ... 9102974229

considering the combined upgrade costs, you get the case for free.
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I'm really puzzled as to why there is still no Utopik upgrade for Radikal or KEB! Is there a technical reason that is specific to these products, or is it that they found that Utopik did not usefully improve these products? I know that Linn claim that they will only introduce an upgrade if it results in a noticeable improvement in the sound quality of a product. I realize that Radikal is quite different functionally to a DS/DSM and may have some unique power supply requirements but why did Akurate Exaktbox 6 &10 get the Utopik upgrade but not KEB?!? Maybe KEB with 6 channels of Organik has unique power supply requirements?
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The KEB is the odd one out. Especially as it's a current product. I can see no reason why they designed Utopik for the AEBs but not the Klimax. It's very odd indeed.

Radikal is a different kettle of fish that may have other design constraints.
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It is an easy reason, the Utopik PS for the Akurate Exaktbox is identical to the one designed for NG Klimax DSM and a lot others (/Slimline). For the KEB they must design a special one. It looks the same as in the Radikal (/Mini)
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GeraldS wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:50 pm It is an easy reason, the Utopik PS for the Akurate Exaktbox is identical to the one designed for NG Klimax DSM and a lot others (/Slimline). For the KEB they must design a special one. It looks the same as in the Radikal (/Mini)
I thought that but they managed it for the pizza box KDS/M.
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Obviously my reach out to the “ Helpline “ was just the usual consistent garbled message of untruths or unknowns.
Should have known better but some things never change. :roll:
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Coyote Jim wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:35 pm ImageObviously my reach out to the “ Helpline “ was just the usual consistent garbled message of untruths or unknowns.
Should have known better but some things never change. :roll:
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Krabbler wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:03 am I think this is a reasonable price

https://www.audio-markt.de/market/linn- ... 9102974229

considering the combined upgrade costs, you get the case for free.
Thanks - if it were through a UK dealer then I grab it straight away. £9k would be fine if I could trade in my Akurate DSM.
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