Crystal Palace Sack Pardew.

Jazz Club · Post by **Jazz Club** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:28 pm

Fat Sam is up next.
Big mistake

MHmusic · Post by **MHmusic** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:44 pm

Jazz Club wrote:Fat Sam is up next.
Big mistake

Yeah, but that's the way we roll unfortunately.

Sad to see Palace so PR sensitive and even more concerned re Parish's intimation that expansive football hasn't worked and so they are going to wind it back. Tighten the defence (and dump some of the defenders) for sure, but going back to a 'defend at all costs for 90 mins and hope we nick a goal from a FK' is not a place I want us to return too. Players really do need to look at themselves, especially the back 4 who TBH don't deserve the Premiership on their form in 2016. So many comical mistakes that have thrown away the points.

Expect BFS to be announced shortly and the BFS out campaign to start the same day. I am afraid online fans at Palace these days seem to enjoy the campaigning. Sad, but true.

Red Chris · Post by **Red Chris** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:56 pm

Well that would be Crystal Palace safe for this season - quite a good place to start against Watford too

MHmusic · Post by **MHmusic** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:31 am

Red Chris wrote:Well that would be Crystal Palace safe for this season - quite a good place to start against Watford too

Hope you are right Chris

I fear Deeney will inevitably hit his 100th ? goal as they look to get their form back. We always need to score at least 2 if we are going to get anything out of a game these days.

Jazz Club · Post by **Jazz Club** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:38 am

I don't know of any other business on the planet where so many sacked people just walk into high payed new jobs.

MHmusic · Post by **MHmusic** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:37 pm

The game as a whole isn't in a good place right now.

Cheating is apparently 'being professional', some players are paid more in a week than most people need for a year and that money leaks out of the game, there is little integrity or loyalty around as winning is everything. I am not nostalgic about the past - more worried for the future as it can't last.

The quality of the football is probably at an all time peak but I expect that to dilute going forward as China looks as if it is already beginning a concerted attempt to 'steal' the franchise. They play the long game better than anyone and I can see this threat accelerating the formation of a 'european league' which will be the death knell for me I think.

Back to Palace for a moment. So go on tell me how bad is it going to be with BFS? I have a fair idea from afar but would appreciate some detail from you Hammers out there.

Red Chris · Post by **Red Chris** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:16 pm

Jazz Club wrote:I don't know of any other business on the planet where so many sacked people just walk into high payed new jobs.

Well Big Fat Sam was wrongly dismissed by England who should have shoen some backbone and stood up to the nonsense being promulgated by the Torygraph - best of luck to him I say, as he fully deserves another go

He is a fine progressive coach who has been inappropriately maligned and even vilified due to people like Arsene Wenger and Rafa Benitez making lame excuses for their own team's shortcomings when BFS's teams have beaten them.

He could even take over from Jose in 20 years

Red Chris · Post by **Red Chris** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:31 am

All three Premier League managers - Paul Lambert, Brendan Rodgers and Alan Pardew - who have signed Christian Benteke have then been sacked

MHmusic · Post by **MHmusic** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:32 pm

Red Chris wrote:All three Premier League managers - Paul Lambert, Brendan Rodgers and Alan Pardew - who have signed Christian Benteke have then been sacked

But that's not hard is it? Any player that has moved to a new club can pretty much say that unless they have been at Arsenal

It's another one of those pretty silly stats doing the rounds at the minute. OAP crime has shot up 47% apparently - panic!

Red Chris · Post by **Red Chris** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:09 pm

MHmusic wrote: OAP crime has shot up 47% apparently - panic!

Is that crime by OAPs - as it does look as if the Brexit prospect has had a deleterious effect on Brexiters' morals so it is likely to be reflected in the crime statistics.

I can't immediately think of another player who matches the Benteke effect on three managers after separate moves. Perhaps BFS should sell him to Arsenal in January and see what happens

Fellaini moved to United and has caused two managers to be sacked but that's only one move . Even Kevin Nolan didn't get BFS sacked three times

MHmusic · Post by **MHmusic** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:22 pm

Red Chris wrote:
MHmusic wrote: OAP crime has shot up 47% apparently - panic!
Is that crime by OAPs - as it does look as if the Brexit prospect has had a deleterious effect on Brexiters' morals so it is likely to be reflected in the crime statistics.

I can't immediately think of another player who matches the Benteke effect on three managers after separate moves. Perhaps BFS should sell him to Arsenal in January and see what happens

Fellaini moved to United and has caused two managers to be sacked but that's only one move . Even Kevin Nolan didn't get BFS sacked three times

It's true as a % but the numbers are so small and the way its counted has changed. It has nothing to do with mass gangs of OAPs roaming supermarkets stealing trolleys for a ramraid on the local whist drive ........

Re the players, I might take a look if I can find an easy way to find a list of all players that have moved 3 times which is the most significant factor here. I reckon 98% on that list will then have had their managers sacked at some point. It's the latter that's defining this not Benteke. i.e. if you take Wenger out of the calculation the average tenure of a Premiership manager is 1.5 years. They are all dead men walking......

Red Chris · Post by **Red Chris** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:31 pm

I like quirky statistics - like Sunderland don't win if Jack Rodwell starts, and their recent wins followed his injury

Red Chris · Post by **Red Chris** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:34 pm

MHmusic wrote:It has nothing to do with mass gangs of OAPs roaming supermarkets stealing trolleys for a ramraid on the local whist drive ..

You should try going to Boscombe - or Weymouth

MHmusic · Post by **MHmusic** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:11 pm

Red Chris wrote:
MHmusic wrote:It has nothing to do with mass gangs of OAPs roaming supermarkets stealing trolleys for a ramraid on the local whist drive ..
You should try going to Boscombe - or Weymouth

Are you crazy? Far too dangerous unless you are tooled up and with your gang

.....................although it might be one of the few places that I might qualify as a toy boy, heaven forbid.

Red Chris · Post by **Red Chris** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:29 pm

Red Chris wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:56 pm Well that would be Crystal Palace safe for this season

You can head for the beach now Sam mate

MHmusic · Post by **MHmusic** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:03 am

Red Chris wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:29 pm
Red Chris wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:56 pm Well that would be Crystal Palace safe for this season
You can head for the beach now Sam mate

We have had an unbelievable set of results but the irony is that they are exactly the reverse of the first half of Sam's reign that pushed us deep into the relegation zone. i.e. we lost 6 of the first 7 games with him in and charge and turned some poorish form into a bit of a meltdown for a while. But now we have won 6 of the last 7. Not suggesting he is totally responsible for either run of results TBH but there is no doubt that the wins at Anfield (our 3rd on the bounce there), Stamford Bridge and the 3-0 against Arsenal have been very impressive and we have built strength from the back. Not rocket science but the transfer window is what has made the difference and so I am sure Pardew is pretty peeved he didn't get the chance to do the same.

Not sure how committed Sam was when he arrived but he has certainly enjoyed the big games and the results. Got his full swagger back in the interviews this weekend and TBH fair play. He is right to be annoyed that all 3 wins have been pegged as off days for the opposing team. Lucky coincidence for us that

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