Winging Sam

[Dan Steel]

I watched the Palace v Everton game yesterday and Palace where very poor. Fat boy was trying to mask over how poor they where by winging over Everton's goal. First by saying they where down to 10 men Schlupp when down with cramp not an injury and was off the pitch when the game was in play he rolled back to try and get the game stopped. Next FS moaned that the goal was off side match of the day proved that Ward was playing Coleman on side. Everton's goalie had one shot to save all game and one header by a very poor Benteke hit the bar. Only fine saves by Hennessy spared Palace from an high scoring defeat. Unless he does something quick Palace are going down and FS will miss out on his £4 million bonus.
On a good note a great win by Swansea

[Jazz Club]

I've always had a soft spot for Palace and hate whats going on there at the mo and feel for the fans.
But have to admit I loved seeing fat Sam's face yesterday.

[Dan Steel]

Palace should have ck with Pardew, he would have turned it around.

[Scottyhammer]

Same old BFS making excuses while slummacking on the bench chewing gum like there's no tomorrow.....total wanker !
I do however jointly blame the players especially the waste of space that is Benteke.

[MHmusic]

Palace should have ck with Pardew, he would have turned it around.

I'm a Palace fan for my sins and agree with this but the online noise had built to a crescendo and when there slight rumblings at the ground too SP called a halt to it. I am not sure half of them are real palace fans because it seems a national sport these days to troll the opposition but whatever turns you on I guess. The killer has been the 12 month stats which are pretty dire but when he was sacked we still clear of the relegation spots. Now after 7 league games under BFS we have drawn one and won one and we are deep in doo doos. Out of the Cup (which is probably a blessing) too.

What has been a surprise is that under Pardew the players were always playing for him, bust a gut to get back into games and TBH played good football in spells but not for 90 mins. We were scoring and falling foul of pid individual errors and the odd freakishly good goals (think at least 3 of the goal of the season candidates are against us, including Carroll's). Under BFS the team looks battered and down and out with no guts or fight left in them.
Yesterday against Sunderland the crowd roared into 'your not fit to wear the shirt' which I don't think I have ever heard in over 50 years of support.

The dilemma now is that our easier games are coming up now (yesterday was one of them - gulp) and BFS is trying to shut the door at the back still and I can see us drawing at best with the teams we can beat and needing wins against top 6-8 teams.

Our only hope is that other teams are just as crap but it doesn't look likely. Genuinely surprised BFS hasn't been able to lift them since his arrival.

[Jazz Club]

I hate seeing Palace going down like this after great work done there over the last few years.
I do however take great pleasure in watching the money grabbing greedy bastard Fat Sam fail.

[MHmusic]

I hate seeing Palace going down like this after great work done there over the last few years.
I do however take great pleasure in watching the money grabbing greedy bastard Fat Sam fail.

I can relate to both halves of that TBH although for now I am 100% behind BFS on principle. A principle that sticks in my throat with this guy but hey that's what principles do.

It's quite unbelievable that BFS has taken the club with the worst record in 2017 and made it materially worse despite getting 100% backing from the owners etc on staff and players. We used to score goals for fun but leak even more. BFS has all but eradicated the scoring side of things but no other improvement. He mostly says the right things but I can't get this image of a deeply depressed Les Dawson out of mind when he is talking. Time to make the difference.

LFS (Sammy Lee) seems popular and effective behind the scenes but still we concede and lose points.

The other odd thing is that the online fanbase (which is large and been around from the early online days) seems to be shaking itself apart somehow and there seems to be fracture lines all over the place. This seems to be spreading into the stadium now which isn't going well. Fan base needs to get its act together.

[Dan Steel]

Give credit where is due Sam looks like he's doing a good job. I was first to be critical of him after Palace's performance against Everton. But Sam has proved me wrong, and last nights result against Arsenal was spot on. Well done Sam and well done Palace, I hope you remain in the PL.

[MHmusic]

Last nights game against Arsenal was awesome to watch at the time but even better when I watched it again this afternoon. It's easier when you aren't expecting Giroud to score 4 goals in the last 5 minutes (bane of our lives). TBH we controlled the game with and without the ball and watching it in the calm light of day showed that. I can just about remember the last time that we beat them when Salako scored twice at Highbury and Wrighty scored for them.

BFS seems to split fans everywhere but at the moment most are behind him of course. Difficult not to be after 5 wins in our last 6. There are not huge differences between the shape and selections other than the new transfers (after Pardew left) but those new players have all done very well (Sakho, Milivoyevic and Schlupp). We are on the verge of an injury meltdown again though but if we can nick 3 more points we make it very difficult for the rest. Fingers crossed.

[Dan Steel]

Very sad times at Everton at the moment but it’s now got worse with the forecoming announcement of fat arse Sam. I’ve supported Everton through thick and thin good and bad. But now I fear we are heading out of the prem and the idea of bringing fat arse in brings Everton to a new low. From a club that had high aspirations at the start of the season we have stooped to a new low and are the laughing boys of the prem. The Liverpool supporters are having a field day and I don’t blame them. Koeman has completely destroyed Everton and should never have been appointed like all Dutch managers who come to the prem they can’t cut the mustard as Man Utd and Palace fans know.
Bad times at Everton a club I love and it hurts to see what the board are doing in appointing him. Panic is the word.

[Scooter]

Very sad times at Everton at the moment but it’s now got worse with the forecoming announcement of fat arse Sam. I’ve supported Everton through thick and thin good and bad. But now I fear we are heading out of the prem and the idea of bringing fat arse in brings Everton to a new low. From a club that had high aspirations at the start of the season we have stooped to a new low and are the laughing boys of the prem. The Liverpool supporters are having a field day and I don’t blame them. Koeman has completely destroyed Everton and should never have been appointed like all Dutch managers who come to the prem they can’t cut the mustard as Man Utd and Palace fans know.
Bad times at Everton a club I love and it hurts to see what the board are doing in appointing him. Panic is the word.

Can’t believe it either. I thought at the start of the season Everton were going to be the team to watch. Something is very sadly amiss and it looks like it could get worse.

[Dan Steel]

Keith,
It starts with the purchases, and it’s all Koemans work
£45 million for Gylfi Sigurðsson couldn’t get a game for Spurs but best player for a poor Swansea team. Koemans no1 target at any price. We’ve got a geriatric back four the money could have been used to buy a new left back and a centre half. At best worth £20 million.
£25 million for Michael Keane at best worth £15 million vastly overpriced and overrated could have got Maguire from Hull for £15 million.
£25 million for Davy Klaassen a star at Ajax but completely out of his depth but is he a scapegoat due to the pathetic start.
£5.5 for Sandro Ramirez a chance taken on him due to his scoring ratio in Spain. He could come good but his chances have been limited due to the bad start.
Wayne Rooney part of the deal for Lukaku and a waste of space. Lost his place at Man Utd due to his drinking performances with Wes Brown and Darren Gibson. A complete piss head who should not be on the pitch, and one that stinks of Bill Kenwright reminiscing moods.
Cuco Martina a free from Southampton worst player I’ve seen Koeman brought him to Southampton and he could not get a game once Koeman left. Saints supporters were begging Everton to take him as he was that bad. Took the piss on Twitter when he arrived.
Couple all these signings with Ashley Williams who we signed last year and is so bad he should never wear a blue shirt again, you can see how bad a state Everton are in.
You can’t blame Unsworth he is doing his best with a bad bunch, same goes to Moshiri he is a business man who probably knows nothing about football. He paid off all the debts and provided Everton with a war chest to buy the players unfortunately Koeman didn’t know a good player if he fell over one.
When Everton had the European place boxed off last season they went on a very bad run and it was never addressed and it was to continue to where they are now in very deep relegation. Allardyce should have been booted out of football for life after what he done whilst England manager, but now he is going to Everton. I certainly won’t be going anymore.

[MHmusic]

You have my sympathy for where you find yourselves for sure but right now we (Palace) need as many teams as possible to be struggling to get out of the mess we are in. Couple of things about your insights/points:

We only had BFS for half a season but in that short period of time he was better than we had expected. There is the murky history , the defence first/respect the point mantras but he does give flair players the platform to play. I would say he is light years better than Pulis at that. Also found myself warming to him which was a shock because he does talk a lot of sense but also has a sense of humour. Pulis doesn't. We needed him and he did the job, so fair enough. But I understand the nervousness about him being put in charge of a longer term future but I am doubtful of any 'certainties' these days.

Re your squad and transfers. From afar I was jealous of the big budget but surprised at how this was seemingly frittered away and gobsmacked that you didn't buy a top CF. It wasn't rocket science that you needed to replace him. What was laughable is that you almost sold us Niasse too and would have even less options.

Gylfi Sigurðsson can't have become a bad player overnight. He topped the tables in the stats but needs the team to be shaped around him. Most of all he needs a CF to play off and to. The rest I agree with. Rooney was a bizarre purchase. I am surprised at how quickly Williams has declined and just glad we were unsuccessful a year before now.

Is it Koeman that was picking the signings or your DOF? If not the latter but validated by the Manager then what exactly is he doing ?

So you have my sympathy but........ we have our own problems.