Kudos Klub

[timster]

This is the nicest veneer I’ve seen on a pair of s20a’s. I forget who the gentleman was but remember he agreed to buy the speakers (dealers demo) only if it was that veneer.

Which are you referring to?

[Zee9]

it took a while to upload the attachment, I think. look at my post again

[timster]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

[ae111sr]

This is the nicest veneer I’ve seen on a pair of s20a’s. I forget who the gentleman was but remember he agreed to buy the speakers (dealers demo) only if it was that veneer.

That was no gentleman - that was me . I fell in love with the speakers before I had even heard them , even more in love after the demo. That was seven years ago and I still love them.

[Wenge1]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

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That was me. I got the Santos Rosewood finish speakers you demoed. Different grain pattern to those in the pic a couple of posts above but the wood finish is the same and looks stunning. It was a 'special' as it was expensive and the wood became harder to ethically source.

[Coyote Jim]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

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That was me. I got the Santos Rosewood finish speakers you demoed. Different grain pattern to those in the pic a couple of posts above but the wood finish is the same and looks stunning. It was a 'special' as it was expensive and the wood became harder to ethically source.

Give them that system pic Adam.

[Wenge1]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

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That was me. I got the Santos Rosewood finish speakers you demoed. Different grain pattern to those in the pic a couple of posts above but the wood finish is the same and looks stunning. It was a 'special' as it was expensive and the wood became harder to ethically source.

Give them that system pic Adam.

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Not the best pic and you will have to excuse the cable dressing.

[Coyote Jim]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

.
That was me. I got the Santos Rosewood finish speakers you demoed. Different grain pattern to those in the pic a couple of posts above but the wood finish is the same and looks stunning. It was a 'special' as it was expensive and the wood became harder to ethically source.

Give them that system pic Adam.

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Not the best pic and you will have to excuse the cable dressing.

Lovely system and speakers Adam.

[Wenge1]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

.
That was me. I got the Santos Rosewood finish speakers you demoed. Different grain pattern to those in the pic a couple of posts above but the wood finish is the same and looks stunning. It was a 'special' as it was expensive and the wood became harder to ethically source.

Give them that system pic Adam.

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Not the best pic and you will have to excuse the cable dressing.

Lovely system and speakers Adam.

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[evil_C]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

.
That was me. I got the Santos Rosewood finish speakers you demoed. Different grain pattern to those in the pic a couple of posts above but the wood finish is the same and looks stunning. It was a 'special' as it was expensive and the wood became harder to ethically source.

Give them that system pic Adam.

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Not the best pic and you will have to excuse the cable dressing.

That’s a nice veneer on your S20s, Adam. It won’t be too long now before I can get mine set up (not as nice as yours though).

[Wenge1]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

.
That was me. I got the Santos Rosewood finish speakers you demoed. Different grain pattern to those in the pic a couple of posts above but the wood finish is the same and looks stunning. It was a 'special' as it was expensive and the wood became harder to ethically source.

Give them that system pic Adam.

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Not the best pic and you will have to excuse the cable dressing.

That’s a nice veneer on your S20s, Adam. It won’t be too long now before I can get mine set up (not as nice as yours though).

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Cheers Clive - Yours will sound just as good ..........

[Coyote Jim]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

.
That was me. I got the Santos Rosewood finish speakers you demoed. Different grain pattern to those in the pic a couple of posts above but the wood finish is the same and looks stunning. It was a 'special' as it was expensive and the wood became harder to ethically source.

Give them that system pic Adam.

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Not the best pic and you will have to excuse the cable dressing.

That’s a nice veneer on your S20s, Adam. It won’t be too long now before I can get mine set up (not as nice as yours though).

.
Cheers Clive - Yours will sound just as good ..........

He’s going to use a Supernait 3

[Wenge1]

Ahh yes, that finish was discontinued because of production issues but was the finish on the pair I demoed and would have got if Icould. They were bought by a fellow kabineer, lucky duck!

.
That was me. I got the Santos Rosewood finish speakers you demoed. Different grain pattern to those in the pic a couple of posts above but the wood finish is the same and looks stunning. It was a 'special' as it was expensive and the wood became harder to ethically source.

Give them that system pic Adam.

.
Not the best pic and you will have to excuse the cable dressing.

That’s a nice veneer on your S20s, Adam. It won’t be too long now before I can get mine set up (not as nice as yours though).

.
Cheers Clive - Yours will sound just as good ..........

He’s going to use a Supernait 3

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Bunch of Naim Boys .........

[ae111sr]

This is the nicest veneer I’ve seen on a pair of s20a’s. I forget who the gentleman was but remember he agreed to buy the speakers (dealers demo) only if it was that veneer.

That was no gentleman - that was me . I fell in love with the speakers before I had even heard them , even more in love after the demo. That was seven years ago and I still love them.

This is the system in my living room, the Akurate DSM and Melco are in the dining room next door
Living Room by John Payne, on Flickr

[Zee9]

SIMPLY STUNNING!

This is the nicest veneer I’ve seen on a pair of s20a’s. I forget who the gentleman was but remember he agreed to buy the speakers (dealers demo) only if it was that veneer.

That was no gentleman - that was me . I fell in love with the speakers before I had even heard them , even more in love after the demo. That was seven years ago and I still love them.

This is the system in my living room, the Akurate DSM and Melco are in the dining room next door
Living Room by John Payne, on Flickr

[timster]

This may sound mad but...
The Super20s can be run either passive, using the bottom connectors, or Exakt using the top ones. This bypasses the crossover. No internal adjustment is necessary, unlike my old 140s.All well and good.

First question is, when run passive the top ones are shown in the wiring guide connected to another set of connectors below them using little metal hoops. Why? What is the second row connected to? Is this really necessary?

Second question is the mad one and depends on the answer to the first. Can both be connected at the same time? ie. can they be run active in one system, and passive in another? Not at the same time/concurrently but eg. stereo system actively, AV system passively?

[Mr Onion]

First question is, when run passive the top ones are shown in the wiring guide connected to another set of connectors below them using little metal hoops. Why? What is the second row connected to? Is this really necessary?

super20.jpg

The passive crossover is physically between the passive input and the passive outputs, so the links connect the crossover outputs to the drive units. Unplug the links and you can then actively connect the amplifiers directly to the drive units. Used passively without the links will result in no sound.

Can both be connected at the same time?

Only if you want lots of fireworks and smoke from the amplifiers and speakers

[timster]

First question is, when run passive the top ones are shown in the wiring guide connected to another set of connectors below them using little metal hoops. Why? What is the second row connected to? Is this really necessary?

The passive crossover is physically between the passive input and the passive outputs, so the links connect the crossover outputs to the drive units. Unplug the links and you can then actively connect the amplifiers directly to the drive units. Used passively without the links will result in no sound.

Can both be connected at the same time?

Only if you want lots of fireworks and smoke from the amplifiers and speakers

Right, thanks. Should have seen Passive Outputs!
It was just a passing fancy to find a way of getting my left speaker further out from the side wall. Back to the drawing board. Was thinking a pair of b&w m1s, nice and small, but the stands foot is still pretty wide.

[Coyote Jim]

First question is, when run passive the top ones are shown in the wiring guide connected to another set of connectors below them using little metal hoops. Why? What is the second row connected to? Is this really necessary?

The passive crossover is physically between the passive input and the passive outputs, so the links connect the crossover outputs to the drive units. Unplug the links and you can then actively connect the amplifiers directly to the drive units. Used passively without the links will result in no sound.

Can both be connected at the same time?

Only if you want lots of fireworks and smoke from the amplifiers and speakers

Right, thanks. Should have seen Passive Outputs!
It was just a passing fancy to find a way of getting my left speaker further out from the side wall. Back to the drawing board. Was thinking a pair of b&w m1s, nice and small, but the stands foot is still pretty wide.

Doesn’t matter what speakers you have the positioning is very poor.
Same problem for all.

[DiggyGun]

First question is, when run passive the top ones are shown in the wiring guide connected to another set of connectors below them using little metal hoops. Why? What is the second row connected to? Is this really necessary?

The passive crossover is physically between the passive input and the passive outputs, so the links connect the crossover outputs to the drive units. Unplug the links and you can then actively connect the amplifiers directly to the drive units. Used passively without the links will result in no sound.

Can both be connected at the same time?

Only if you want lots of fireworks and smoke from the amplifiers and speakers

Perhaps you could put some silicone bungs in the unused sockets to prevent accidental use.

[timster]

Good idea. Better if Kudos made it plain in their documentation

[evil_C]

Hi James,

Have you now upgraded your S20 to S20A spec? If so, do you know if there are any material differences other than the rear panel offering the ability to bypass the crossover? Thanks.

[Mr Onion]

Hi James,

Have you now upgraded your S20 to S20A spec? If so, do you know if there are any material differences other than the rear panel offering the ability to bypass the crossover? Thanks.

I've 'only' owned 20A's and mine have the crossover that can't be bypassed

[evil_C]

Hi James,

Have you now upgraded your S20 to S20A spec? If so, do you know if there are any material differences other than the rear panel offering the ability to bypass the crossover? Thanks.

I've 'only' owned 20A's and mine have the crossover that can't be bypassed

Thank you. That sounds the same as mine, although they’re still in their boxes.

[silkie]

Seen a couple of mentions that the Kudos 20a and 10a have been retired? Do we know if Kudos has any plans to refresh them or are they just focusing on the Titan's now?

Looking at the new Linn 119 and 150 the Kudos stuff just looks more appealing to me now. Specifically as replacements for my M140 and Katan's.