Organik for Akubarik

[Scooter]

Remember, in very simple terms that the lower the first number the less bass you will have but the tighter the bass will be and vice-versa if the first number is higher - more bass but 'woolier/boomier'. (before people start shooting bullets I did say 'very simple terms' ). I would be very surprised if the setting you end up with is very far away from the 20/80 Linn suggest - I use 25/75. It would also be worth looking at Custom Filters to adjust bass/treble balance as suggested earlier in the thread.

Thanks for that explanation. Useful info. Leaving things as they are at the moment and await our dealer visit. Leave him to deal with custom filters etc..
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In my previous reply I was suggesting that by not having the system I couldn’t hear any improvement. Well I have been away for over a week and got home yesterday. Put the system on from cold and played Lachyd Da by Bill Ryder-Jones, straight away I could hear the improvement. The album is a good recording with a dynamic range of 10. The separation of instruments is much clearer and generally so much a big difference. One album which I used to use as a standard setter was John Hiatt’s Slow Turning. I consider the on organik/utopik setup it sounds so much better than my lingo2/sondek set up.
Hopefully your dealer may identify something.

[vincent]

In my previous reply I was suggesting that by not having the system I couldn’t hear any improvement. Well I have been away for over a week and got home yesterday. Put the system on from cold and played Lachyd Da by Bill Ryder-Jones, straight away I could hear the improvement. The album is a good recording with a dynamic range of 10. The separation of instruments is much clearer and generally so much a big difference. One album which I used to use as a standard setter was John Hiatt’s Slow Turning. I consider the on organik/utopik setup it sounds so much better than my lingo2/sondek set up.
Hopefully your dealer may identify something.

Even without direct A/B comparison (in other words where 'A' is the memory of how the system sounded with Katalyst and 'B' the current Organik experience) the scale of the improvement with Organik is obvious. It's funny how the precise characteristics of SQ in the old setup remain imprinted on memory in this way.

[The Snug]

[timster]

Well they could've at least masked the Katalyst logo.
Was there Utopik too? Can't remember if it's available yet for them.

[vincent]

Presumably your Akubariks have now been re-united with their Organik'd modules. Will be interested in your impressions (underwhelmed -middlingwhelmed - overwhelmed) in light of @The Twins experience

[The Snug]

Mindful of the need to allow brand new electronics settle, I have put the system on play and am leaving it to itself for a while. Sadly I have no time today to spend listening, but the weekend awaits. I did however sneak the room to have a a short listen to Gilmour Live in Gdansk and it bodes well.

I quite like that the Katalyst logo remains as it shows the speakers lineage; each to their own.

[vincent]

I quite like that the Katalyst logo remains as it shows the speakers lineage; each to their own.

Your label looks straighter than mine (the crookedness of which did not appeal to @entdgc )

[The Snug]

During setup my installer found a screen in Manage System which was asking for a choice for Drive Unit Modelling. They chose option 5 which is labelled as Extended drive unit modelling (V5). Has anyone any idea of what Drive Unit Modelling is, and which is the optimum setting? My installer didn't know so took a guess.

[Moomintroll]

https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Exakt_filters

I would expect the latest version (highest number) to be best - it is with 350s. Easy enough to change and try the alternatives if you so desire.

Dave

[akamatsu]

During setup my installer found a screen in Manage System which was asking for a choice for Drive Unit Modelling. They chose option 5 which is labelled as Extended drive unit modelling (V5). Has anyone any idea of what Drive Unit Modelling is, and which is the optimum setting? My installer didn't know so took a guess.

A few of us were talking about this in another thread. I checked my Katalyst Akubariks and found them to be on v4. I tried v5 and could hear no difference. So I went back to v4. v4 is also Extended Drive Unit Modelling. I believe these are the filters for the Exakt. It determines the profile, behavior of the Exakt crossovers.

https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/ ... kt_Filters

[akamatsu]

https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Exakt_filters

I would expect the latest version (highest number) to be best - it is with 350s. Easy enough to change and try the alternatives if you so desire.

Dave

We were typing at the same time.

I will yield to Dave's expertise on this.

[Moomintroll]

https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Exakt_filters

I would expect the latest version (highest number) to be best - it is with 350s. Easy enough to change and try the alternatives if you so desire.

Dave

We were typing at the same time.

I will yield to Dave's expertise on this.

I’d hardly claim to be an expert, Michael. All opinions welcome.

[akamatsu]

https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Exakt_filters

I would expect the latest version (highest number) to be best - it is with 350s. Easy enough to change and try the alternatives if you so desire.

Dave

We were typing at the same time.

I will yield to Dave's expertise on this.

I’d hardly claim to be an expert, Michael. All opinions welcome.

From where I stand.......

[Moomintroll]

I’ve asked what the differences are on the Devt Forum.

Dave

[akamatsu]

I’ve asked what the differences are on the Devt Forum.

Dave

I look forward to their reply. I would think that during an update the appropriate Exakt filter would be selected. But again, I found mine on not the latest (v4).

[Moomintroll]

I’ve asked what the differences are on the Devt Forum.

Dave

I look forward to their reply. I would think that during an update the appropriate Exakt filter would be selected. But again, I found mine on not the latest (v4).

Not in my experience, I’ve (always?) had to specifically change the filter in use.

[akamatsu]

I’ve asked what the differences are on the Devt Forum.

Dave

I look forward to their reply. I would think that during an update the appropriate Exakt filter would be selected. But again, I found mine on not the latest (v4).

Not in my experience, I’ve (always?) had to specifically change the filter in use.

Good to know. So a customer could be using an older filter when a more recent, and presumably better one is available.

[Mark57]

Checked mine and I’m on 5. Not sure if that happened ‘automatically’ with the Organik upgrade or was deliberately chosen by my excellent dealer when installing the new modules.

[vincent]

During setup my installer found a screen in Manage System which was asking for a choice for Drive Unit Modelling. They chose option 5 which is labelled as Extended drive unit modelling (V5). Has anyone any idea of what Drive Unit Modelling is, and which is the optimum setting? My installer didn't know so took a guess.

We re-selected v5 when given the option during setup (pretty sure this is what it was with Katalyst)

[The Snug]

Thanks for the feedback. You know how it is when you are presented with an unfamiliar option and there seems to be little Akibarik/Organik guidance.
As I was not expecting the panels back so quickly, I had planned a full weekend so I won't get a chance to have a good listen until tomorrow. Playing in the background the system sounds mighty fine.

[The Snug]

Having given the electronics some time to settle, I have had the chance to listen to a range of music from QNAP, Qobuz and vinyl. I am consistenly surprised with the amount of additional detail I am hearing in familiar tracks and vocals in particular have become so much more realistic. I have found that the biggest leap forward is with vinyl replay, and I have the feeling that I shall be playing much more vinyl going forward. Interestingly I have left SO off for all sources and feel no need to tweak. I think that the combination of the Utopik in the KSH and the Organik in the Akubariks have brought more control and clarity to the music. I am pleased with this upgrade.

[akamatsu]

Having given the electronics some time to settle, I have had the chance to listen to a range of music from QNAP, Qobuz and vinyl. I am consistenly surprised with the amount of additional detail I am hearing in familiar tracks and vocals in particular have become so much more realistic. I have found that the biggest leap forward is with vinyl replay, and I have the feeling that I shall be playing much more vinyl going forward. Interestingly I have left SO off for all sources and feel no need to tweak. I think that the combination of the Utopik in the KSH and the Organik in the Akubariks have brought more control and clarity to the music. I am pleased with this upgrade.

The Organik DACs should reveal more musical detail. And there's more musical detail on vinyl to reveal.

Space Optimisation does things that neither Organik nor Utopik can do. To me, time of flight optimisation would be missed. It's a big advantage provided by Exakt.

[timster]

Having given the electronics some time to settle, I have had the chance to listen to a range of music from QNAP, Qobuz and vinyl. I am consistenly surprised with the amount of additional detail I am hearing in familiar tracks and vocals in particular have become so much more realistic. I have found that the biggest leap forward is with vinyl replay, and I have the feeling that I shall be playing much more vinyl going forward. Interestingly I have left SO off for all sources and feel no need to tweak. I think that the combination of the Utopik in the KSH and the Organik in the Akubariks have brought more control and clarity to the music. I am pleased with this upgrade.

The Organik DACs should reveal more musical detail. And there's more musical detail on vinyl to reveal.

Space Optimisation does things that neither Organik nor Utopik can do. To me, time of flight optimisation would be missed. It's a big advantage provided by Exakt.

Maybe Linn could consider having an SO+ option to only apply the t-o-f correction.

[Moomintroll]

To clarify - SO+ doesn’t apply TOF. That’s down to Exakt - https://www.linn.co.uk/uk/technology/exakt

Dave

[timster]

To clarify - SO+ doesn’t apply TOF. That’s down to Exakt - https://www.linn.co.uk/uk/technology/exakt

Dave

But it needs to know relative positions. To do that it needs a room profile through SO.
There's correction in the speaker itself which is SO independent, but between speakers and listening isn't. You can only have that with the room filters.